How much closer can you get to saying 1975 was a marked year as Fred Franz referred to the date in his book "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God". He speaks of 1975 being the end of the 6 thousand years of human existence. He said "According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." On page 19 of the October 8, 1966 Awake, they refer again to 1975 as the end of the six thousand years and then on the top of page 20 they say, "It means that within relatively few years we will witness the fulfillment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end." So what do they mean by "a few years"? Ten years, 20 years now 44 years later and the society say they never set a date? There is much more and the eye witness testimony that in a court of law would be enough evidence to charge someone criminally, yet it is just a few disgruntled ex witnesses that are lying.
William Penwell
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Children of 1975
by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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Another example with me was my father sold the family home in 1974 believing that the end was right around the corner and that what was the sense to have these extra financial burdens going into the "great tribulation". He was told by the society that the economic system was about to collapse, so it would be prudent to then put more effort into the preaching work. My dad is an old man now and I know he regrets getting rid of his life investment. If he would have at least have waited till he retired and then sell the home, my parents would now be financially secure. Instead they have to rely on other family members for support. So don't tell me that this was not from the Watchtower as thousands like my dad were mislead. Is the Watchtower now going to support all these people they lied to? Its now tough luck you are on your own as the GB and Watchtower are sitting on billion dollar real estate that the R&F JW's all bought and paid for.
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by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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debator, I cannot speak for you but I was there I lived through it and saw with my own eyes and ears how the RF JW's were mislead. There was no question that 1975 was a set date in the minds of the RF JW's at that time, which was drilled into our heads over and over again from the platform of the Kingdom halls and assemblies. I was only a young impressionable mind at the time and was brain washed by the older ones to think that I would not grow up in this system, that we were to put off higher education and to go into the full time ministry as the time was so short. We were told we had no time to fool around in this present system of things. Only because of myself have I got a good paying job and built up a pension to help me as I get older and live my life out in this present system. So many of my friends like myself who's young minds were easily bend to the Watchtowers propaganda took on this urgency at the time, putting their lives on hold . I know what I say here will not change the way you feel about the Watchtower but I am only telling it like it was to those ones that were too young to remember or that were born after 1975 of what really went on at that time. WP
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by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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We are the witness of that generation of what happened and how the society denied it. Believe me I was there and experianced it first hand so no matter what the GB of the Jehovah Witnesses tell you I and many more ex witnesses will tell you it did happen, so they can deny it all they want.
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WT Jan 2011 - Grieving Holy Spirit Defined?
by sabastious incould alex do?
he might lovingly approach.
steve again and lay bare his fault.
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So we must rat out on our friends and shun them otherwise we may grieve the Holy Spirit. No wonder the Dubs are all screwed up
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Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?
by William Penwell inwell i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.
to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.
well a few years later guess what?
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I think we missed the point of my posting. My point here is that I have learned you can't trust anyone if there is a little bit of money to be made. No matter who they are my experiance is when it comes to money you cannot trust anyone.
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Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?
by William Penwell inwell i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.
to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.
well a few years later guess what?
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Sorry to hear about your pension W.P. That's gotta hurt ! Isn't there a way to prove she made that verbal agreement? Especially since she is going after our pension a few years after the fact. Wouldn't she have done that in the beginning unless some other agreement, verbal or otherwise, had been made such as the one you described ? It seems like an Attorney might be able to prove this in court somehow.
I have talked to a lawyer and without getting into specifics, he told me there is not much I can do. He said maybe if you want to pursue it in a court of law and you get her in front of a judge admitting to the verbal agreement, you maybe able to win but if you lose you could get stuck with all the court costs etc. Just shows me how hypocritcal these people are. Most never put away for the future retirement as they were too busy banging on doors, like my ex. but when they can see now that they have nothing in their old age to fall back on, guess who gets the bite? Guys like myself that worked hard all their lives just to support some BS society. I really have no use for the whole lot of lying SOB.
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Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?
by William Penwell inwell i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.
to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.
well a few years later guess what?
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If she was using the money for something sensible like food and clothing the bite wouldn't be as bad but you know that it will go to further the work of the International Pedo Society.
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Were you ever embarrassed or somewhat ashamed when the WT patted themselves on the back in their own articles?
by miseryloveselders ini was browsing through the december 2010 awake, and noticed an article on the earthquake that happened in haiti earlier this year.
it didn't take long for the article to disturb me.
the third paragraph initiated the sanctimonious tone that is present througout the article.
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William Penwell
The JW philosophy is:
Watchtower=Food
Awake=Medical Aid
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Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?
by William Penwell inwell i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.
to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.
well a few years later guess what?
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Well I thought there was one thing I could count on with my ex JW wife and that was she would not go back on her word. To make a long story short, after we were separated and I signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension. Well a few years later guess what? Well you guest it, she phones me all apologetic and tells me that things have changed that she is making a claim against my pension. The lesson learned here is I trust no one's word when it comes to $$$$, even a good JW CHRISTIAN..... Thoughts or experiences people?